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"The music can't be weak! . . . It was so hard to get the
music to come through all the insanity that you hear outside of the
music in the film (300). The music just has to have some intensity,
some attitude, some girth."
Tyler Bates
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Just a few days before the wide
release of Zack Snyder's
300, Tracksounds is able to talk with 300's
score composer, TYLER BATES. He shares about his work for the
ground-breaking film, his influences, and his desire to continue to
work with visionary directors. |
CC:
So how are you feeling
just prior to the
release of the film?
TYLER BATES: I
think there is a great
deal of excitement. I
think the movie,
itself, is probably
the first "great"
movie I've worked on.
I've worked on some 40
movies...some really
good movies with Rob
Zombie, James Gun and
other directors, but
this is the first
movie of such a grand
scale that I've gotten
the opportunity to
write beautiful, epic,
emotional themes and,
at the drop of a dime,
rough the picture up
intensely. So it's
been very stimulating
in that regard. Also,
the fact that I know
that it's Zack's
desire to make
commercial films, but
his brand, from his
vision, is really
exciting. He really
wants people to have
unique film
experience, so he's
not looking to other
movies to model his
ideas and his
decisions in the
process.
CC: Having listened to
your work for
300 a few
times now, I have to
say that it is one of
the most aggressive
scores I've heard in
some time. Now, be
honest, when you were
writing the score for
300, did you want your
music to be noticed
just a little?
TYLER BATES:
You know to be
honest...I come from a
background of making
records and performing
live, but I wouldn't
say I would use this
(300) as a vehicle to
get noticed per se. My
ultimate goal is to
give the audience the
most enhanced
experience the music
is capable of offering
and obviously, first
and foremost,
satisfying the
director. Zack
(Snyder) wanted this
movie, not only to
kick-ass, but to be as
innovative as
possible. He didn't
want to travel down
the same road we've
all been down before.
CC: Of course, your
job is to musically
support the directors
vision...but this
music is really,
really aggressive - not
in a negative way at
all...it's just
strong.
TYLER BATES:
(laughs) Well, there's
a lot of heavy metal,
swords and shields,
and big muscle-people.
You know? The music
can't be weak! That's
part of it. It was so
hard to get the music
to come through all
the insanity that you
hear outside of the
music in the film. The
music just has to have
some intensity, some
attitude, some girth.
CC: So when you were
scoring the film, did
you ever feel like,
with all the
heavy-duty visuals and
sound design already
going on, that your
music might be "too
much" and then have to
"pull it back" at any
point?
TYLER BATES: We
definitely chose to do
that in the second
battle of the film.
Initially, Zack
(Snyder) wanted me to
hit that one hard.
Then, on one of the
temp dubs, one of the
re-recording mixers,
played the scene just
with the sound design
in some heavy reverb
and no music. Zack
heard it that way and
said, "You know what?
Let's just make this a
nightmare sequence and
we'll come up with
another idea of how to
have music in here
without it getting
rhythmically in the
way of all the
fighting and
weaponry." So, I opted
to take an atonal
approach which ebbed
and flowed with the
picture itself.
CC: So is that piece
represented on the
soundtrack somewhere?
TYLER BATES:
Not on this one, but
they are talking about
doing a 5.1 surround
mix with the digital
mix and in that case
we would definitely
include it, because
it's pretty cool. I
did about 95 minutes
of music for the film
but we could only
release about 60
minutes of it for the
soundtrack.
CC: You do some
great anthems, choral
work, even some
elements that border
on
sound design. If you
can pick one, what
part is the most
satisfying for you to
write?
TYLER BATES:
You know what is
really satisfying is
how to pull all of
that together. That's
how I see music
anyway. I'm not
entirely acoustic. I'm
not entirely
electronic. I'm a
fusion of all those
things without
favoring any of them.
They all do command a
lot of respect and
thought and effort to
get them to work
together as a singular
piece. A lot of times
you'll hear scores
that will have a
little electronic
element that sounds
more like an
afterthought than
anything else. Maybe
it's an attempt to
sound more hip or
something, but I'm
just not into that.
The electronic artists
I'm into are more
cutting edge. Then, as
far as my orchestral
influences go, they
aren't the most
melodic guys.
Now when it
comes to the sound
design aspect, all of
that was hand crafted.
While I used
synthesizers once in a
while, my assistant,
Wolfgang, and I make
nearly every sound you
hear. (Well, at least
all those that are not
a human-played
performance.) We did
everything from
mutating a human
voice, to a woodwind
instrument, to even
percussion instruments
that we created
our own ambient pads
of. We do all that
just so that it has
its own vibe - its own
soul.
CC: So how much time
would you say you
spent on simply
creating your own
sounds for this score?
TYLER BATES: Oh
my God. It never
stopped throughout the
process of the film!
The fortunate thing
was that when Zack
first asked me to
participate in the
actual presentation
that he was creating
to help sell the idea
of the film, I wasn't
nearly as busy as I am
at the moment. He
actually put together
a presentation where
he filmed the pages of
Frank Miller's graphic
novel. They removed
all of the word
bubbles out of it and did
a little special
effect on it. That was the little,
visual animatic that I
had the opportunity to
score. I
was able to develop
some of the basic
ambient sounds that
actually made it into
the film.
CC: How much was the
director, Zack Snyder,
involved with the
music?
TYLER BATES:
Zack is the type of
person who doesn't
micro-manage...at
least not me. We have
a great working
relationship. He
doesn't speak to me in
"musical terms." There
were a couple times
where it was sort of
the eleventh hour,
where he would say
that he needed "this"
kind of thing in the
music. I usually see
Zack about once a week
when we work together.
That is, of course, if
there is no temp dub
that week. For 300 we
had four temp dubs or
mixes. So for each I'd mix and
deliver the score, as
far as I had written,
for the temp dub.
CC: There aren't a
whole bunch of 300's
out there - a
creatively unique
film, but one that is
being marketed in the
mainstream. Would you
say that it is more
important for you to continue
to push the envelope
as far as your style
of composition versus
going more
middle-of-the-road and
getting more
opportunities to do
feature films?
TYLER BATES:
Fortunately, right
now, I have several
films going. I knock
on wood everyday and
I'm very thankful for
those projects. I've painted a
lot houses to keep my
career going (laughs).
I really don't know
how to do anything,
musically speaking,
another way. I'm
constantly trying to
improve my process and
expand the scope of
how I look at music
and how I express it.
But to try to do the
next Christmas
movie...well, it would
depend on the director
actually. I'm probably
not the best composer
for that journeyman
director that the
studio hires to direct
some movie. I'm the
guy for the director
who has a vision for
their overall career
in regards to the
style of films they
want to make. Zack
Snyder is that type of
guy. I try to look
ahead a little bit. When I'm
in my fifties someday,
I still want to love
music and I don't want
to look back with
regret for selling out
and doing studio
movies. You know the
movie might not even
be that great, but if
a director is
passionate about it, I
think
there really is
something of value
in that. I really don't
want to just do
something like the
next Olson-Twin's
movie. It's not me.
CC: Now there is rumor
of you working with
Zack Snyder again for
WATCHMEN. Any truth to
that?
TYLER BATES:
Yes. He's asked me to
do the movie. If I'm
lucky I'll do all of
Zack's movies. That's
the way he talks to
me...with that kind of
language. But for me,
I feel like it would
be cheating a project
if I look too far down
the line. I knew that
he was doing the
WATCHMEN when we were
working on 300 but I
didn't feel like even
mentioning the
WATCHMEN. I didn't
read the book.
Nothing. I just wanted
to focus on 300 and do
the best job I could
do. So, yes, he asked
me to do the WATCHMEN
and so I'm preparing
for that now.
CC: Now you are also
listed as the composer
for
300: MARCH TO
VICTORY, the video
game. Did you compose
anything specific for
that project?
TYLER BATES: I
definitely did musical
adaptations for it,
but its pretty much
derived from the score
itself.
CC: You mentioned you
have several projects
in the pipeline. Talk
about those for a
moment.
TYLER BATES:
Yes...well...there are
three horror movies
(laughs). I'm
finishing up DAY OF
THE DEAD right now
which is really a good
crazy action movie.
I'm starting HALLOWEEN
with Rob Zombie
sometime next week.
I've seen bits of that
and its utterly
disturbing and
incredible. I'm also
working on RESIDENT
EVIL: EXTINCTION. I'm
working on a film
called SIX BULLETS
FROM NOW by a
director, Steven Kay,
whom I've worked with
several times before.
Hopefully, at that
point I can take a
vacation or something!
And I'll start the
WATCHMEN this year as
well.
CC: How do you think
things will change for
you after
300 has its
wide release?
TYLER BATES:
Well, I'm not making
any assumptions. There
have been a couple
points in my career
that I thought things
were going to improve
and, before you know
it, I'm back painting
Patricia Arquette's
house again. You know
what I'm saying?
CC: I'd be surprised
if you ever have to
pick up another paint
brush again.
TYLER BATES:
(Laughs) Yes...well,
I've just been through
a lot in my life. You
just never know what
is going to happen. I
appreciate the
opportunities and I
want to make the most
of them. I just don't
want to ever make the
assumption that the
phone is going to ring
off the hook. I just
appreciate the
opportunities I have
had. I have been able
to work with one great
director after
another. The
experiences are always
really cool on a
personal level and
creatively they've
offered me some
interesting
opportunities. As long
as it continues in
that direction, I'm
thrilled.
CC: Thank you so much
for your time today. I
appreciate you taking
the time with your
full schedule.
TYLER BATES:
Alright. Thanks so
much.
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